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Porsche Новый Boxster - первый отзыв от Autocar

Тема в разделе "Porsche", создана пользователем Flying Dutch, 2 дек 2011.

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    http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/260341/


    The third-generation Porsche Boxster is now just four months away from a planned debut at next year’s Geneva motor show. But before the German car maker’s boss Mathias Muller granted the mid-engined roadster a definitive production go-ahead back in October, Autocar joined a team of development engineers in California as they put the final test miles on prototype versions.
    Codenamed 981, the new Boxster represents a big break, both in terms of engineering and philosophy, from its predecessor. Following on from developments brought to the latest 911, the strict two-seater is not only larger dimensionally but also sports an aluminium bodyshell that is claimed to be the “the lightest car in its class,” according to Boxster development boss Hans-Jürgen Wӧhler.
    See pics of the all-new Porsche Boxster
    It’s also slightly longer and a good deal wider than before, while a newly developed, automatically-operated cloth hood marginally reduces height, giving it a more elongated appearance.
    Seeing the new car up close for the first time reveals other key modifications, including significantly larger wheel houses and larger brakes, although their exact dimensions are yet to be confirmed.
    See our completely undisguised Porsche Boxster spy pics
    The larger aluminium body is supported by a thoroughly new chassis that receives a wheelbase that has been bumped up from 2415mm to somewhere in the vicinity of 2540mm along with a front track that has been increased in length by around 52mm to take it up to 1542mm. While there are no carry over components within the suspension, the architectural elements remain intact, with MacPherson struts sited up front and multi-links at the rear. But as Wӧhler points out, the spring rates have been increased while the damping reduced in firmness.
    A bigger change is the switch from hydraulic power steering to the electro-mechanical system that recently debuted on the new 911. Purists will scream, but Wӧhler says, “you can rest assured, we haven’t stuffed it up. Drive the new model next to the old one and you can’t tell the difference – it’s that good.”
    If there’s one familiar aspect about the latest version of Porsche’s rear wheel drive roadster it is its naturally aspirated six-cylinder direct injection petrol engines. Like the new 911 Carrera, however, they feature a smaller capacity.
    We’re told the base 2.9-litre unit in the second generation Boxster makes way for a 2.7-litre engine, while the 3.4-litre mill in the Boxster S is supplanted by a 3.2-litre powerplant. Despite the downsizing, Wӧhler says both engines develop greater power than those they replace. Porsche had yet to receive final certification figures at the time of our ride experience, but expect something around 270bhp and 325bhp respectively.
    Other driveline changes centre around the seven speed double clutch PDK gearbox, which has been reworked with a new electronics package that is claimed to make it more intuitive and provide faster shifts in each of the Boxster’s drive modes, normal and sport. It now also supports a so-called sailing function that decouples the engine when you lift off the throttle on descents, cutting the engine revs to idle and reducing rolling resistance.
    But it is the manual ‘box that will undoubtedly make headlines. Like the new 911, the Boxster S receives a seven speed unit as standard. It’s based on the PDK gearbox, and comes equipped with a lock out that prevents you changing into seventh from anywhere but fifth and sixth gears. Owing it is lower torque rating, the base Boxster sticks with the existing six-speed manual.
    More power and less weight results in better straight line performance with 0.2secs shaved off the 0-62mph time of both the Boxster and Boxster S, bringing their benchmark acceleration times down to 5.6sec and 5.0sec respectively.
    With the new electro-mechanical steering system along with a stop/start function and new thermo management measures built into the new driveline, fuel economy is predictably improved by up by 18 per cent to 33.2mpg.
    On first experience, admittedly from the passenger seat, the new Boxster has clearly moved up in standing. Impressions are of a more mature car with a broader set of abilities. A moderate increase in cabin length introduces added space, and with it comes a feeling of greater well-being.
    At typical motorway cruising speeds, the new Porsche displays greater refinement than the car it replaces; mechanical, road and wind noise are all reduced with its excellent new cloth hood in place.
    There’s greater compliance to the suspension, which results in improved levels of ride comfort around town. That’s not to say it isn’t sporting in feel, just that inherent harshness on certain surfaces has been relaxed a little, endowing the new car with a more settled feel.
    What impressed most about the new Porsche Boxster, was the ability of it to carry big speeds through corners withou needing to check progress, such is the fluidity and neutrality inherent in the new chassis. It’s hard to say whether it improves on the outgoing model in terms of handling, but in isolation it is hints at greatness.
    If you’re searching for a more definitive verdict you’ll have to wait until we get to drive the new Boxster for ourselves. The crucial thing is that despite the changes in character, the new model appears to retain all the crucial traits that have made it such a exciting car to drive up until now, and that also goes for the sound of its new engines, which continue to growl with the same familiar tone and ferocity as before.
    Greg Kable
     
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    Могут ли боковые панели быть настолько фейковыми? :shock:

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    есть какой-нибудь инсайд по срокам? :hi:
     
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    Ну а почему нет то?)
     
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    Премьера - вроде ожидается в Женеве.
    Продажи - соот-но ближе к концу лета.
     
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    Ок, спасибо
     
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    Коричневый хочу. Или жёлтый. Плевать, что бабский, он такой красивый. И судя по штатовской цене - очень бюджетный.
     
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    продажи ориентировочно стартуют летом?
     
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    Афигенский!!!
     
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    Реально красивый получился!!) Передние фары очень понравились...
     
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    Forget the new 911 – Porsche has uncovered its new Boxster convertible.

    Following an international embargo being broken by a number of European motoring sites, the German sports car specialists' new-look Boxster has been revealed.

    Debuting at the Geneva motor show in March, the freshened-up Boxster has been tweaked and re-engineered, with the mid-engined, two seater roadster due to go on sale in Australia in July.

    The drop-top now flaunts a lightweight aluminium body, a roomier 911-style interior and the choice of two heavily upgraded versions of Porsche’s classic horizontally-opposed six-cylinder engine – both now boasting direct injection, slight gains in power and, thanks to a host of new fuel saving features, impressive reductions in fuel consumption.

    The most dramatic change, though, surrounds the new Boxster’s styling, which is credited to a team of in-house designers working under the guise of Porsche design boss, Michael Mauer – the man behind the look of the latest 911.

    Lending themes first established on the Carrera GT produced between 2004 and 2006, the new Boxster adopts a more cab-forward stance, with the windscreen shifting forward quite significantly.

    Advertisement: Story continues below It also gets more heavily sculptured flanks, which now feature longer doors, larger wheel-arches designed to accommodate wheels up to 20 inches in diameter, and a distinctive rear end that adopts a modern interpretation of the classic 911 ducktail treatment.

    Along with the new exterior design, which represents the first major break from the look of the original Boxster launched back in 1996, comes the first significant dimensional change in the car’s illustrious 15 year history.

    Nothing is official at this stage, but reflecting moves made the with the latest incarnation of the 911, Porsche confirms the new Boxster rides on a longer wheelbase and wider tracks.

    These added dimensions provided the basis for a roomier interior which takes its cues from that of the new 911.

    In a move aimed at seeing the new Boxster match its rivals, it now also comes with a fully automatic cloth hood. The multi-layered structure, which is supported on a magnesium frame, no longer requires manual assistance, retracting back at the press of a button. It now also stows behind the cabin in a fully exposed position, allowing Porsche to do away with the tonneau cover featured on earlier models.

    In line with developments brought to the larger 911, the new Boxster boasts a body made predominately from aluminium. Porsche isn’t giving away too much detail on the new structure right now, but officials indicate it weighs more than 100 kilograms less than the outgoing second-generation model’s all steel body.

    That should see the base Boxster hit the scales at less than 1300kg, despite the increase in dimensions and what Porsche describes as “greater levels of standard equipment”.

    Arguably the most significant change to the Boxster’s mechanical make-up centres around the steering, which, like that of the new 911, eschews hydraulic assistance for a new electro-mechanical system developed in partnership with German specialist, ZF.

    In a further link with the new 911, Porsche has provided the third-generation Boxster with a downsized base engine. Previously 2.9-litres in displacement, the new model adopts a comprehensively reworked six-cylinder reduced to 2.7-litres – the same size of the base engine offered in the first-generation Boxster model following its facelift back in 2000.

    Despite the reduction in engine size the 2.7-litre kicks out 8kW more than its predecessor at 195kW. In combination with a raft of new fuel saving features, including automatic stop/start, brake energy recuperation and a thermal management system that dispenses with the oil cooler for the gearbox, it is also claimed to deliver outstanding combined cycle consumption of 7.7L/100km on the European test cycle.

    The Boxster S, on the other hand, retains the same 3.4-litre engine as the model it replaces. However, it too has been revised for greater efficiency, with power climbing by 4kW to 232kW and consumption reduced to a claimed 8.0L/100km – down from a previous best of 9.4L/100km.

    As before, buyers of the new Boxster will be offered the choice between a standard six-speed manual and optional seven speed PDK double clutch gearbox – the latter featuring revised software for what Porsche describes as “more rapid and smoother shifts” along with a so-called sailing feature that, like that seen on the 911, automatically decouples the engine during coasting.

    When running the optional PDK gearbox, the new Boxster is claimed to hit 100km/h from standstill in 5.7 seconds, with the Boxster S reaching the same performance benchmark in 5.0 seconds – a reduction of 0.1 and 0.2 seconds respectively.

    Further gains in straight line performance are promised by the adoption of Porsche’s optional Sport Chrono package, which now brings dynamic gearbox mounts.
     
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    Вот блин, только решился на 997 4s, так тут такой красавец
     
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    впервые в жизни красивый бокстер! Ура!
     
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    Из штатов в хорошем фарше - 3млн рублей.
    911 C2 - 5млн.

    У нас я думаю 2,7-2,9 будет база на обычный бокстер, хотя Порше взялось за продвижение спортивных моделей, 991 вон упал в цене по сравнению с 997, может бокстер тоже начнут за 2,5 в базе продавать... Кто в курсе? Если так, то имеет смысл подождать отечественный.
     
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    На Амерских форумах слух есть, что будет Turbo 4 версия бокстера - это ведь миф?
     
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    Boxster - 2 326 000
    Boxster S - 2 820 000
     
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    боковая линия от Каррера ГТ, передняя оптика от концепта 918, 100 кг в минус. неплохо в целом, Кайман будет быстрый :thumbup:
     
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    Задок красив, перед в стиле тойоты (позабыл модель, мелкий кабриолет)
     
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    MR II? Не очень похоже. Вообще норм бокстер получился :thumbup:
     
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    Благодарю. Я понимаю, что у тебя как раз бокстер. Без обид :hi:
     
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    Насчет минус 100 кг, пожалуй, неверно - разница в снаряженной массе 30-35 кг:

    Boxster S 987.2 (DIN): 1355/1380 кг (МКПП/PDK)
    Boxster S new (DIN): 1320/1350 кг (МКПП/PDK)
     
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    Какие обиды, я же не девочка. Просто едва ли уродливый автомобиль получил бы во всех своих кузовах столько внимания, в т.ч. по дизайну

    Список по Северной Америке из википедии

    Within a year of marketplace acceptance in the United States the original Boxster received many awards, including:

    Car and Driver: One of the 10 Best Cars of 1997
    Automobile: Automobile of the Year
    Motor: 1997 Performance Car of the Year
    Autocar: Best Roadster in the World
    Motorweek: 1997 Drivers Choice for Best Sports Car
    The Philadelphia Inquirer: Best Sports Car of the Decade
    Newsweek: One of the Best New Products of 1997
    BusinessWeek: One of the Best New Products of 1997
    American Marketing Association: Best New Product of 1997
    Automobile Journalists of Canada: 1997 Car of the Year
    Automobile Journalists of Canada: Best Design of 1997

    The Boxster has been on Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list eleven times, from 1998 through 2003 and 2006 through 2010.

    The Boxster S (986s) was rated one of the top ten Porsches of all time by Excellence magazine.

    The Boxster (both 986 and 987 generations) is evo magazine's recommended buy in the "Sports Car" category and has been since the model's introduction.
     
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    Амеры для меня не самые авторитетные дизайнеры и люди если честно. У них совсем странное мышление и точка зрения. Ну да ладно. Не в наградах дело. Просто новый бокстер выглядит действительно по-новому. Это не тот случай как с 911ми, где из года в год меняют бампера и диоды. И это здорово. На мой экспертный взгляд - у нового бокстера лучший экстерьер :thumbup: Народ будет брать стопроцентно! :)
     
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    прочитал неудачно текст - видимо, там про вес кузова, а не авто. Вы правы :nod:
     
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    Бокстер получился красивее, чем 911. Офигеть. 2 300 за базу говорит о том, что еще год активной работы, и годовалую машину с небольшим пробегом за 2,0 в нормальной комплектации можно брать.

    зашибись :)
     
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    Перед отличный, задок пресноват. Вывод- надо брать!
     

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